In 2002, Steven Spielberg released a film called Catch Me If You Can, starring Leonardo DiCaprio as a con man being pursued by Tom Hanks’s dogged FBI agent. The movie was loosely based on a 1980 autobiography of the same name by convicted fraudster Frank Abagnale Jr., who claimed all sorts of outrageous criminal exploits. For example, beginning in the 1960s, Abagnale supposedly impersonated an airline pilot, a doctor, and a lawyer, all the while passing bad checks reportedly totaling over two million dollars. After inevitably getting caught, Abagnale decided to go straight and use his personal experience to help authorities combat fraud. In later years, however, it’s come to light that many of the claims Abagnale made in his autobiography may be wildly exaggerated or outright fabrications, so is it possible the con man is still conning the public after supposedly changing his ways? Join Tom and Jenny on this roller coaster ride of graft and chicanery on a duplicitous episode 392.

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The subject of this episode should need no introduction to anyone following any kind of news in the past few years. Jeffrey Epstein, wealthy financier and convicted sex offender, moved in the most elite social circles and was eventually found to have procured women and underage girls to offer to his powerful friends and colleagues. His list of contacts contains several names that most anyone would recognize, including a few former presidents and some members of the British royal family. In 2019, Epstein allegedly committed suicide in prison, but many believe he was actually murdered. Join Tom and Jenny on this sleazy journey into the disgusting behavior of the one percent on an infuriating episode 387.

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Michael Jackson was one of the most successful and beloved pop stars the world has ever seen, and his sudden death in 2009 at the age of 50 shocked his millions of fans. But as most people know, long before his controversial death, Jackson’s life was plagued with rumors and scandals, from the relatively harmless—such as the allegations that bleached his skin, or that he tried to buy the bones of the “Elephant Man,” Joseph Merrick—to the horrific—namely, that he systematically groomed and abused several young boys over the course of his career. On this episode of 13 O’Clock, Tom and Jenny dive into the fray, discussing the 1993 and 2005 trials charging Jackson with sexual abuse, as well as the conviction of his doctor Conrad Murray, who was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter for administering the drugs that ended Jackson’s life.

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